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Re: Advanced Save Game Six Empires Huge Map and Minor Races

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It is suggested that the people who are the crew of the Midway battleship are future versions of Terrans, but maybe this is what they claim as they don't want any species to know they are actually the primary sentients, who left and started the interdimensional war. It is their fault that this final ultimate battle happens.
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The primary sentients likely influenced every storyline for the primitive species who came later and now are major race empires. Maybe the primary sentients were genetic engineers and the major races exist from that experimentation?

The primary sentients abandoned their creations as they were self-absorbed in transcending. These other species that they manipulated were just cast off as likely inferior and unlikely to amount to much for various reasons that were character flaws.

Just as likely, these six species were simply early protospecies and so the primary sentients considered them monkeys. But it
is plausiblee the primary sentients meddled as they did not want to experiment on themselves, so millions of years of evolution happened in greatly accelerated form in hundreds of years.
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Maybe the primary sentients presumed the Ehlen would be the species that would fill their role in the galaxy, but they never amounted to much and only became pacifists who make amusement parks! They never attempted space travel. How ironic. The primary sentients were completely wrong how time would unfold and those discarded six genetically enhanced "monkeys" came to dominate the galaxy for supremacy. Why? Because of primary sentient meddling.
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What I'm suggesting is a comprehensive distillation of the BotE galaxy so every part of the phenomena makes sense, but the irony is a selfish godlike group of beings meddle and then abandon their creation-experimentation thinking that these creatures are so dimwitted and all have flaws, and are separated by vast light-years, so it will be fine. They will never encounter each other! No worries.

Primary Sentient "This galaxy will be fine. The Ehlen will inherit and are pacifists and the rest are so spread out that they are irrelevant. What could possibly do wrong?"

Except the primary sentients actually ended up causing galactic war and then the interdimensional war too.
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I think I pulled together every major plot point from the German BotE wiki into one overarching narrative.
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The latest update of the forum software adds the Digi style. This is great because the blue spectrum of the tablet lighting is actually hard on human eyes, so to reduce eye strain, some use special filtration software. That is unnecessary using Digi and BotE maps now depict correctly as they do in game. Prior the galactic maps looked washed out and it was difficult to see all the territory correctly. Now it is easy to see the territory markers. Actually all images as attachments or that are URL tagged now appear crisper.

Medically this is a topic of concern as it is plausibly harming your eyes by eyestrain as well as by wavelength.
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Why not sign up so you can do this and participate in the conversation? I'm glad to answer questions.
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Maybe there were naturally occurring minor races who arose as the primary sentients did, then the six (the major races) who arose through genetic manipulation by the primary sentients, and even a third option:the interdimensionals to fight back covertly manipulated some of the minor races too. The BotE wiki also has slave races that arose by minor races.

And perhaps all of that is why the conflicts exist. There are a lot of stories that can be told from those four aspects.
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What I am suggesting is a rich complex genesis by multiple sources that ends up starting proxy wars.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/cult ... %20proxies.

There are two major issues with the origin of life. The first is where did the aggregation of all matter arise from as all matter comes from the death of stars and no stars exist yet. See? This is called infinite regression in philosophy. Y is the effect created by cause X. What caused X?

Some say an omnipotent omniscient figure began the Big Bang. Problem: where did this deity come from? Plausibly, such a being is a higher order interdimensional.

Others say that the death of one universe then expelled matter into this universe. Problem: what created the first universe? You end up with an endless chain of universes expelling matter each time, and not necessarily sequentially.

Besides that issue, how did protein formation begin as mathematically no life could plausibly exist on the Earth even now? There has been insufficient time, meaning someone manipulated protein synthesis for it to have happened.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W1_KEVaCyaA

This suggests a designer only. That is as far as a philosopher can go with ontology without speculation into theology.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gG7uCskUOrA
This is a designed engineered process. If you think it is a natural process, then that is a bit goofy and illogical and violates the laws of mathematical probability. Do you think art or buildings or vehicles spontaneously arise too? Obviously they are created and engineered. Books don't write themselves.

Someone interfered so humans arose on the Earth. The idea that it just randomly happened is absurd. If you believe the latter, you believe shaking a bunch of lego toys long enough creates models.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hk9jct2ozY
DNA to RNA transcription and translation is a molecular machine process. Just look at it.
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Multiple forces interfered in the galaxy of BotE and so this is why so many species on entirely different sectors arose 20 light years away. Some were slave races who fled. Some were former masters who lost control of their creation. Much of the powerful species then try to influence other species through control. Someone made those species, and even the primary sentients were made by someone first. That someone likely came from outside the BotE galaxy.

The lowest number of galaxies in the universe: 100 - 200 billion.
The highest number of galaxies in the universe: trillions.

Even in a sea of amino acids with the highest concentrations, it is impossible to get a small protein to form in 4.543 billion years. Someone started life on the Earth. Cell membranes can spontaneously form, but proteins cannot. Proteins are not life but just a necessary component. Imagine the complexity of organelles and the nucleus.

That is nothing compared to the complexity of a sentient mammal. If it mathematically requires a minimum of 400 billion years to get a sentient mammal, but the Earth is 4.5 billion years, someone interfered with genetic engineering. That is nearly a fact.
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I suggest that fits the mythos of BotE and so explains the conflict and allows thousands of story lines.

In the 1800s, some foolish botanists brought over honeysuckle and kudzu over from Asia. There these were eaten and used in medicine, but as they propagate by spreading vines, the foolish botanists presumed these simple plants would act to reduce erosion say on cliffsides.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ku ... eorgia.jpg

Well, they took over as nobody eats them or uses them for medicine and no animals use them either.

What a scientist does to meddle can have a major impact if they are careless and don't consider the ramifications.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6lHQYZRxNjQ
When Dr. Manhattan leaves, his first thoughts are to create life elsewhere in space. It's a plausible response of a godlike being.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FEoz5PS6ohg
The Primary Sentients in this clip seem benign, but then end up as the Founders in the Dominion, and are responsible for the Dominion War.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourth_Kind
In the film, the Fourth Kind, the extraterrestrials are Sumerian gods and totally malevolent. Sumer was the first known civilization. Thus in the film, they are the Primary Sentients.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyKZGEAc3s
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If there were a second BotE or something different of commercial quality as I have discussed, such a program might have primary sentient genetic engineers, and their goals are not just terraforming and colonizing, but seeding life where no life exists...yet.

It would be a game with many unusual goals that are not primarily about conquering.

Or one could play as the interdimensionals and not make ships, but control ships that slowly enter this galactic space time to oppose all species and limit growth. You probably merely attack and bully the other species. At some point, a special colony ship arrives and you establish a base of operations, so only have a single sector from which to build low level ships to bolster attacks.
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One of the marvelous aspects about BotE is it is not all about space, but about making valuable culturally significant infrastructure which then confers advantages to your empire.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vlYkCIU202o
The Dig is a wonderful film about an amateur with an interest in archaeology and who thinks her property has ruins on it in burial mounds, so pays out of her own pocket to hire an amateur archaeologist with lots of practical training, but little formal training, and together they excavate Sutton Hoo.
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/sutton ... nd-the-dig

This was of immense historical significance as they thought it was a Viking ship, but instead it is Anglo-Saxon, and demonstrated tremendous culture of educated people , not a group of primitive Dark Age barbarians.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Anglo-Saxon

I would love to add many such "wonder projects" to BotE. As this is about Germanic people, I hope every descendant of German ancestors watches the film. I loved it.
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This was fabricated by an artisan in the 7th century. How many people could make it today?
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A player could just conquer across the galaxy as quickly has possible, but I suspect most would take the time to maximize the infrastructure across the galaxy and improve the lives of various species. That could manifest in lots of ways by wonder projects.

You don't have to, but the result is a solid stable 200 morale in 90% of the Omega empire. The people are pleased at such expenditures to not just conquer but recognize their many kinds of culture.

Why not make the maximum be 300? It makes more sense as my people are already at fanatical levels.
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