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BotE for Android is amazing as it's an open source, moddable, offline space 4X strategy game for Android and WindowsXP and Windows Vista+ and Linux. And there is a beta multiplayer too. The developers and game program did the opposite of all the commercial products.

BotE should be hugely popular, but given it's a program largely for German speakers and not well documented and has a sabotage issue, these aspects have reduced its marketability. Millions ought to be playing it as it's everything these players desire.

It needs that and a campaign editor and a map editor too. BotE needs a little boost and even though several years old, could still be popular.

To be honest, I'm surprised the developers haven't been approached by a game company to absorb it into a commercial release using what has already been made. What they would probably do is create an animated and useless cinematic mode (as it's battle calculations not tactics) and make it ad based revenue so an online game.
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In Medieval 2 Total War Kingdoms, you have named military governors of urban regions and named military commanders. And when these build infrastructure, they gain positive attributes and when they do nothing, they gain bad attributes. When they successfully fight in battles, they gain positive attributes in various areas like defending a city or successful statistics using cavalry so these attributes rise.

If BotE had starship captains and admirals using the starship designator and the homesector names, then an attribute system would add a great deal to game play. Certain ships would gain experience and tactical ability. So if there was trouble, you would send a starship with high attributes as a flagship to command a fleet.

Players would eat that up like candy. It would be addictive to dispatch leveled up admirals of flagships to trouble spots.
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This attribute system offered a parallel way to gain tremendous military advancement outside the standard techtree. See...then tactics matter and a trained flagship confers tactical ability to the entire fleet and three lesser ships and a flagship can sometimes beat a superior foe! That is realistic in military history and then makes everyone want those commanders or governors as those commanders are wise and efficient and those settlements get the best income and stability.

Say you had a military occupation in a troubled battlezone. You send a wise benevolent governor to calm down morale issues and then under his or her leadership, it smoothes out the poor morale issues as the occupied extraterrestrials trust them more.

See the ones who won battles could execute the soldiers or spare them. So the ones who executed pacified urban zones, but ultimately gained DREAD and so if they went in an occupied zone, it made morale worse. But the ones who spared soldiers, were benevolent and made things calmer regarding pacification and occupation.
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Modders of the Third Age Tolkien mythos then did a wise thing. Since the Lord of the Rings had leaders with rings of power, then certain governors and generals gained attributes of rings. Then they gained great abilities.

Similarly if BotE had an attribute system, then alien artifacts would confer positive attributes helping research, battle tactics, income, defense, offense, and so forth. You could have mutant extraterrestrials with rare attribute abilites too. Maybe fleets could be made so the number in a fleet was subject to attributes, so some fleets could only have 2 ships and 4 ships based on attributes. It is like command ability. This admiral can command more starships or even this admiral can command these types or classes of starships while others can't...as he or she lacks enough command points. They would gain them by winning engagements plus time at military academies. For example, the best admirals would rise based on fighting 30 successful battles and surviving.
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Then there is scripting. On this turn X, send so many starships of these types, and so many transports with these units, to invade at this galactic map coordinate point. This remedies a weak AI. The AI does not decide to attack, but a script fires under certain conditions to launch invasion forces.

You probably look at the military strength of an empire and there is a decision tree that automatically launches a sufficient force to offers a challenge to the human player.
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If you want a better tablet brand, you get a Samsung, but be careful as you can find something seemingly comparable to the Vankyo, but check the Android OS version as I bet it's very old like Lolipop 5.1. So straight away you would have go root it. Newer tablets have a program available in the GooglePlay store which loads a rooting program to facilitate this upgrading, but always you risk "bricking" the tablet.

Best Buy is pulling a scheme where unsuspecting consumers who want a bigger name brand end up with a tablet made in 2014! This is unscrupulous. See it's a clearance item as they bought too many and they are just sitting in a warehouse and it's maybe an okay tablet, but the price should be way lower.
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Samsung Galaxy Tab A 8.0" 2.gb 32 GB Wifi Android 9.0 Pie Tablet Black (2019)
This goes for about $40 more than a Vankyo and it's a 2019 model.

So the screen is smaller than a Vankyo, but it's $40 more.
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Lenovo Tab M8 Tablet, 8" HD Android Tablet, Quad-Core Processor, 2GHz, 32GB Storage, Full Metal Cover, Long Battery Life, Android 9 Pie, ZA5G0060US, Slate Black
An 8" Lenovo comparable to the Vankyo is $25 more.
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It's very deceptive how the ads are written like bargains as if you read the fine print, they usually aren't bargains.

Like this Android Tablet 10 Inch, 5G WiFi Tablet, 16 GB Storage, Google Certified, Android 8.1 Go, Dual Camera, Bluetooth, GPS – Black made by Hoozo has a Android 8.1 (not 9.0 Pie) and has 16 gb internal storage (not 32 gb) and weights 0.6 lbs more but is $11 cheaper than a 10" Vankyo.

Not a bargain at all.
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I probably have a looked at a hundred tablet stats and 20 rating sites and you can get a 7", 8", or 10" Teclast or Vanko from $68 -$99 with a coupon. It's early so prices may fall for Christmas. But the issue is the supply chain as flu season is here so between that and Covid-19 and an already crippled supply chain, you may not get one.

There are other brands that are not available now.

The Teclast and Vankyo are made in China, so while supplies last...you might grab one. The Teclast has slightly better gaming performance and the Vankyo.has better ratings all around as a very reliable sturdy inexpensive for its size tablet.

I absolutely need one for modding for BotE.

This is for a 2gb tablet. For true performance on something like Feral's Rome Total War ap, you need 3gb. If doing that kind of gaming, I would look for a used reliable Windows computer of some kind as you'll get better performance even on an old laptop.

The main issues with these devices are hard drive failure, bad power supplies, motherboard failure, dc adapter failure, dead laptop batteries, etc.
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Teclast and Vankyo make 3gb gaming tablets but the minimum price increase is $50 and carefully watch the OS as they may be getting rid of clearance items with Android 7.0 OS.

So that is $150-$240 instead of $68-$99.

Teclast has a P10, a P80, and a M30 model.
Vankyo has a S20, a S30, and a Z10 model. You might like the Vankyo S20 which has a coupon so might be in the $125-$130 range.
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Vankyo S20 review $124 w/online coupon
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Vankyo S30 $149 w/online coupon. A LOT of people are buying it....with many very happy as a budget gaming tablet (but it could use better speakers so use ear buds or a bluetooth headset).
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Since I'm beta testing BotE for Android, I'm using a 8 year old Nook HD (2012). It has a very crisp screen which was a selling point back then and actually has a superior screen even today for a 7" 1gb 5.4 gb (really nonsense as software autolaunches especially if connected to the Internet, and the hard drive honestly has 1.9 easily used up and very bare bones with just a couple programs loaded like BotE and vlc player). That runs a halfass quasiAndroid KitKat OS so badly needs to be rooted.The Nook HD runs with 2.2.1 firmware.

So on a maximum 40x40 100% star map (which never actually happens) and 90% minor alien races (150x0.90= 135 minor aliens) and 6 empires, it's laggy at advanced turns (say from turn#600). You get a timeout nonfatal error that you have to acknowledge to continue, not from the setup,but from lots of starships and massive amounts of terraforming.

That can even occur in a sandbox box so only one empire but with a huge amount of unnecessary starships. That is the Omega advanced turn#700 game.

So even a 7" standard 1 gb genuine Android OS os probaby running better as it's not autolaunching many Google aps.

A Vankyo s8 2 gb 32gb tablet with Pie OS would be magnificent at running BotE for Android.

BotE has very low technical requirements like I have never heard of before for such a terrific complex strategy game.

But if you play with a more rigorously demanding game, you could get by with a Teclast 8" model with 2gb, but the better 3gb Teclast would give you the better budget performance.
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The team behind Stellaris:Galaxy Command has already made boneheaded errors. It's a free Android game and they could have dovetailed that with PC gamers as their error-ridden previous misteps over the years were sometimes ignored in a $100 PC game. Kind of pricey, no?

It's free but not like regular Stellaris but a slightly better Android MMO, and you guesed it, a pay to get advanced weaponry system. So many young naive players will buy their way to success essentially ruining the gaming process.

Stellaris is made for modding so of course gained a lot of interest, but the hype didn't live up the actual game.

Your best game is going to be an off line turn-based space 4X strategy Android game, that may allow multiplayer with your buddies, not an MMO. So that is BotE for Android.
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BotE for Android reminds me of Paradox's strategy games like Europa Universalis (2013) except it's in space and so reminiscent of quite complicated chess. The player is playing a tabletop wargame except facilitated by computer calculations and must use their imagination.

One of the things I used to do was talk about generational studies as it impacts groups. And so BotE is made for Boomers and GenXers which makes sense as they have the money, but the players are more likely to be Millennials and GenZ.

Boomers didn't need fancy animations and GenXers liked them in computer games if there was a reason...not just for cinematic value. Both groups would likely play for hundreds of turns. They would produce modders who would tweek the game or even make major modification and total conversion mods. Many were interested in military history and science ficton films and tv shows. They might play for over a decade. They are nationalists.

Millennials and GenZ probably insist on computer graphics and want brief engagements with fast upgrades so they feel they are progressing with better weapons and armor. They are easily distracted and grow bored quickly. They probably don't play chess. They are iconoclastic so despise militarism and world wars. They probably are globalists.

See the marketing issues with BotE?
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